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Choosing Olives for Poğaça and Börek Fillings

Table olives do not always work in pastry. Brine, stones and salt are three variables that affect the product directly.

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Olive poğaça is among the best sellers in a bakery. But the same recipe made with different olives gives markedly different results.

What separates table from cooking olives?

That distinction does not always appear on the packaging.

Table olives are processed for eating directly.

Their salt gets set against taste.

Generally between 5 and 8 percent.

Cooking olives get prepared for use in dishes.

Their salt is lower: 3 to 5 percent.

Pitted and chopped versions exist.

The brine differs too; cooking products carry less liquid and get sold drained.

Why is the salt level critical?

Salt comes from two sources in pastry.

The first is the dough's own salt: 1.8 to 2 percent of the flour weight.

The second is the components in the filling.

Olives are a high-salt product.

A hundred grams can contain 1500 to 2500 milligrams of sodium.

Where a poğaça carries twenty grams of olives that means 300 to 500 milligrams.

Combined with the salt in the dough the total rises markedly.

The salt in the dough therefore falls in an olive product; 1.2 to 1.5 percent suffices and the overall balance holds.

OliveSaltWaterSuitability in a filling
Black in brine5-7%HighMust be drained
Green in brine6-8%HighDrained, low salt needed
Dry-cured8-10%LowMust be rinsed
Oil-cured black4-6%LowVery suitable
Chopped cooking olives3-5%ModerateMost suitable
Olive paste4-6%LowSuitable in small quantity

Why does brine create a problem?

That is where the technique most often goes wrong.

Olives in brine carry a great deal of liquid.

Added straight to a filling that liquid passes into the dough.

The dough gets wet and loses its shape.

The base turns doughy during baking.

The solution has two stages.

The first is draining; the olives sit in a sieve for fifteen minutes.

The second is drying; surface moisture gets removed with paper towel.

Those two steps markedly reduce the water in the filling and solve most of the problem on their own.

How are olive stones removed?

Olives with stones cannot be used in a filling.

A fragment of stone makes the product inedible and creates a serious problem for a customer.

Buying pitted product is the safest route.

But pitted olives are generally softer; the pitting process damages the fruit.

Where olives with stones get used, the stones come out by hand.

The olive gets pressed lightly with the flat of a knife and the stone comes away.

That labour has to enter the calculation in a business; pitting a kilogram takes twenty or thirty minutes and that time appears as a cost.

Which variety gets preferred?

The variety determines the flavour profile.

Black olives are softer and less bitter.

They are the most widely used in pastry.

Green olives are firmer and sharper.

They hold their texture during baking, which is wanted in some products.

But their bitterness is more pronounced; the quantity should fall.

Oil-cured black olives are the most suitable group; their water is low and their salt balanced.

Kalamata and similar varieties carry intense aroma; used in small quantity they make a clear contribution in flavour.

What proportion belongs in the filling?

Olives are a dominant component.

Fifteen to twenty-five percent of the dough weight suits.

Eight to twelve grams in a fifty-gram poğaça.

More both raises the salt and disturbs the dough's structure.

Pieces of olive create voids in the dough; too many break the product apart.

The size of the chop matters too; very large pieces upset the distribution.

Chopping to five or six millimetres gives the most balanced result and olives register in every bite.

How is colour bleed managed?

Black olives give colour to the dough.

Liquid released from chopped olives turns the surrounding dough grey.

That is a visual problem.

There are two solutions.

The first is drying; removing surface moisture markedly reduces the bleed.

The second is flouring; the chopped olives get turned in a spoonful of flour.

The flour absorbs the remaining moisture and prevents the colour transferring.

That step also distributes the olives more evenly through the dough and prevents them sinking.

How are olives stored?

Olives in brine get stored in their own liquid.

They keep six months in a fridge.

Where the brine falls, salted water goes in; sixty grams of salt per litre suits.

Oil-cured olives keep less well; the oil is open to oxidation.

Two or three months in a fridge.

Chopped olives keep the shortest; five days in an airtight container.

A business chops only the daily requirement; olives chopped in advance release water and lose their aroma, and the quality of the filling falls.

Does olive paste work in a dough?

Paste is an alternative to chopped olives.

Its water is low and its distribution even.

Stirred into a dough the colour reaches everywhere; that can be a deliberate visual choice.

But it contributes no texture; no piece of olive registers in the mouthful.

The best use combines the two.

Ten grams of paste goes into the dough and ninety grams of chopped olives into the filling.

The paste spreads the aroma through the base while the pieces provide the bite.

The contents get checked when buying paste; some products contain vegetable oil and starch in place of olive oil, and those do not give the expected result in a dough.

Which product makes sense on cost?

Pitted, chopped cooking olives are the most expensive group by the kilogram.

But the picture changes once labour and waste enter the calculation.

A kilogram of olives with stones yields around eight hundred grams of flesh.

Twenty or thirty minutes of pitting labour joins that.

In a small business that time is a real cost.

For a bakery using two kilograms a day, ready-chopped product generally comes out cheaper in total cost and removes an hour of work from the kitchen.

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Frequently asked questions

What separates table from cooking olives?

That distinction does not always appear on the packaging.

Why does brine create a problem?

That is where the technique most often goes wrong.

How are olive stones removed?

Olives with stones cannot be used in a filling.

Which variety gets preferred?

The variety determines the flavour profile.

How are olives stored?

Olives in brine get stored in their own liquid.

Does olive paste work in a dough?

Paste is an alternative to chopped olives.

Which product makes sense on cost?

Pitted, chopped cooking olives are the most expensive group by the kilogram.

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